God is described clearly in Quran, Il-Ikhlas (Ch112):
Friday, April 29, 2011
Debate on Christian sites over Islam (2) – Allegations against Islam, Unauthentic resources, Muslim slaves taken to the Americas, Ask only Muslims about Islam..
Allegations against Islam:
Dear, Let me clarify for you some major points in your reply:
1st point: ALLAH, Almighty GOD:
ALLAH, is a word in Arabic and Alaramiya of 2 parts, AL- LAH means = THE GOD, and ILLAHY means MY GOD.
Don’t ever think that it represents anything else other than Almighty GOD, the creator of the universe, not the moon, not the sun, nothing else, so please don’t repeat it as “Moon of Arabia” because it becomes a silly joke that repeating it once more becomes so disgusting.
God is described clearly in Quran, Il-Ikhlas (Ch112):
Say (O Muhammad (SAW)): "He is Allâh, (the) One (1) The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need (2) "He begets not, nor was He begotten (3) "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." (4)
Which is similar to what explained in the Bible about God:
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God." [Exodus 20:3-5]
“ALLAH” as word is used by Jesus himself, and if you want the proof watch the following video on youtube from the “passion of the Christ”, calling mighty GOD by ALLAH in Alaramiah Language:
“Passion of the Christ (PBUH) mentions about Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as Mentioned in the Bible”
2nd Point: Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
He was not prophesized in the bible only (old and new), but also in Hindu, Buddhist, and Parsi Scriptures, you can refer to the following site for more details: irf.net
Just an example: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon in Hebrew, chapter 5 verse 16, but changed intentionally in English translation:
" טז חִכּוֹ, מַמְתַקִּים, וְכֻלּוֹ, מַחֲמַדִּים; זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי, בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammad-im Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."
You want to be confident more, hear it from a Jewish Rabbi reading it loudly, search for the following video on your tube:
Surprise for every muslim, Christian and Jew.
3rd Point: The Holy Quran
Quran is the most authentic book on Earth, the first copy was written on Prophet Muhammad days, he even reviewed it with his companions by reading it for them and then asking them to repeat it in front of him. The first collection of all these scripts were collected immediately by the 1st caliph Abu-Baker during the first year after prophet death, then later when Muslims get knowing the paper from the Romans, they made 5 copies to all major Islamic states and send them so other Muslims copy from them.
Till now, an original copy of Quran is kept in Topkapi museum in Istanbul, Turkey, one in Cairo and other in Samarqand.
4th point: The bible
Do you know the oldest existing copy of the bible is 400 A.D., and note that you don’t have even a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of the original bible (7 copies).
Do you know that your bible change with time, and at end of each study Christian scholars change the text because after checking more old copies they discover many phrases that were corrupted by bad writers, so they try to correct it again, as example, the verse that you mention stating “begotten son”
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” [John 3:16] – King James version.
In the new Revised Standard Version of Bible, or what is called shortly RSV Bible, it was eliminated, WHY??
Because it’s not correct and they didn’t find it in old scriptures of the bibles, and you can check it by yourself on the following site, and the new verse become as following without “begotten son” (bible.oremus.org)
16 ‘For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. [John 3:16]
5th point: Scientific facts in Quran
As conclusion of 3rd and 4th points, you can’t refer a very authentic book with “literally saying” billions of copies all over the word with an original copy till now like Quran, with a book that is being corrected every few years or a decade, so all your comparisons are false, and the Quran is the right reference, so if they contradict then Quran is the correct one and the other one is corrupted somewhere at sometime in the past.
About scientific facts of Quran, you can refer to the following site, it’s in English and written by Muslims real scientists, please check it and enjoy: quranmiracles (.com)
6th point: The manipulation in interpretation of Quran verses:
I don’t need to reply on all, I will take one of the examples that you listed in your reply, I will quote your writing, you said:
[Islam offers HELL and that is all Allah Promised hell for his followers:
Sura 3:185, “Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.”
These Suras from Quran very clearly says that after death everyone will go to hell fire then judgment. When a person went to hell fire then how and why it is possible that he/she can come out from hell fire and go to paradise. No way.]
First of all, I would like to mention to you that neither I nor you can interpret Quran just from reading it, it’s not like Bible, someone talking about someone else, where did he go and where did he come from and what did he eat or say, NO, Quran is different it’s completely GOD’s words and the interpretation of Quran is called Tafseir in Arabic and it’s a complete science that you need to study first.
So, to understand correctly what this verse means, I copied its interpretation from the following magnificent site, that you can use it for yourself later on: Quran.com
[Every soul shall taste of death; you shall surely be paid in full your wages, the requital of your deeds, on the Day of Resurrection. Whoever is moved away, distanced, from the Fire and admitted to Paradise, will have triumphed, he will have attained his ultimate wish. Living in, the life of this world is but the comfort of delusion; of inanity, enjoyed for a little while, then perishing.]
Clearly, the word “Zuhzeha” that mentioned as “saved far” means moved away and distanced, means that you will not enter to hell (if you become a believer in God’s will) but will be far away from hell and go directly to heaven, the ultimate destiny.
7th point: The scientific errors in Bible:
I don’t want to mention a lot here, because many Muslims scholars wrote books on this, I will mention a very simple point, that if you explain it to me, I will support your nomination for Nobel Prize for Mathematics:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [Mathew 12:40]
57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple: [Mathew 27:57]
60 And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed. [Mathew 27:60]
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. [Mathew 28:1]
Please, explain to me mathematically how it comes: from Friday night till Sunday dawn, it’s 3 days and 3 nights ?
Wish you a good night.
Dear Mr., What an article!!
I really congratulate you, but I want to drag your attention about one mistake only: the Title, it must be: “What Islam haters say”.
But, please use scientific citation when write articles next time, a long article about Islam with no single quotation from Quran or from authentic Hadith, cutting from newspapers and pasting them all together is not an article.
Muslim Slaves were taken to the Americas
I read your article and want to comment on the following:
[few Muslims numbered among the 12 million black Africans who were shipped to the New World from the 17th to 19th centuries]
[Two such slaves – - Ayuiba Suleiman Diallo and Omar ibn Said – - were brought to America is 1731 but both were returned to Africa in 1734]
If you checked the population of west Africa and calculated how much muslims there, you will get the following:
Total Population 204,079,848, where 141,358,534 are muslims, giving percentage of 70% muslims !!
(Benin-15%, Burkina Faso-50%, Cote d'Ivoire- 60%, Gambia - 90%, Ghana- 30%, Guinea- 95%, Guinea-Bissau -70%, Liberia- 30%, Mali- 90%, Mauritania-100%, Niger- 91%, Nigeria-75%, Senegal- 95%, Sierra Leone - 65%, Togo - 55%)
This means that if 12,000,000 African transferred from West Africa to the Americas, then 8,300,000 were most properly muslims.
2nd, you ignored that those 2 slaves were princes in their countries, and you know that social system in Africa is tribes, if the chief is a muslim then all his people are muslims and if he were non-muslim, they will be most properly non-muslims too.
Source (America's Wars: U.S. Casualties and Veterans, infoplease.com)
Finally, I just want to advise you, “Truth” doesn’t need lies to be proved, if you are on right way, DON’T LIE, Truth will prove itself by itself, if you need to lie or manipulate the facts then know that you are on the wrong path.
Check Your Resources
I saw many of your articles pasted in your comments regarding Islam, and all of these articles were written by non-muslims and Islam haters, I would like to ask you very logical question:
When you have a painful stomachache, you will go to plumber or to a doctor??
I suppose that you will answer of course, for a doctor?
So, Why if you want to know about Islam you read for the extremist Jewish or Christian writers??
Believe me if you ask them about their religion they wouldn’t know the answer? They even may not read the whole bible even a once in their lives, and maybe never met a muslim or went to a muslim country ever in their life.
So, if anyone comes to you and talk about Islam, ask him first: Are you a muslim? Where did you study about Islam? In which university? Did you go to a muslim country first?
No Christians left in Muslims World!!
Dear, you seem just woke up!!
My friend, go to CIA Factbook and check it by yourself, there are 80 million people in Egypt, 10% of them (means 8 million) are still Coptic (East Christians), believe nobody touched them nor their churches. And there are many other millions in all middle East too.