Thursday, June 16, 2011

Debate on Christian sites over Islam (9) – Muslim tolerance with Christians and Jews lived peacefully in Muslim countries, Defeating the claim that “Quran has errors”.



Wrong Mosque Direction:

My sister,

Thanks a lot for asking, I don’t know about which mosque you are talking about, but we as Muslims are been asked to direct in all our prayers to Mecca, but if we don’t know exactly or we don’t have the tools then we estimate the direction and pray, as God says in Quran:

And to Allâh belong the east and the west, so wherever you turn (yourselves or your faces) there is the Face of Allâh. Surely! Allâh is All-Sufficient for His creatures' needs, All-Knowing. (Al-Baqra - 115)

And you know, Google Earth was just recently invented, this doesn’t mean that all their prayers are wrong or not accepted, NO, but if they have now the tools to check the correct direction then they have to divert to correct direction so to be aligned with all muslims all over the worlds.
God bless you sister and I ask O mighty God to enlighten your mind and your heart for the real truth. AMEN
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Muslims Tolerance with Jews and Christians in Islamic World

Dear Friend,

I will refer you to Christian and Jewish websites as reference, I know you will not believe a muslim friend for sure:

A.    About the Christians in Arab Worlds, till now there are 14 millions of Arab Christians

     Lebanon (35-45 % of the population)
     Palestine (5-10 %)
     Jordan (6-12 %)
     Syria (10 %)
     Sudan (10 %)
     Egypt (6-12 %)
     Iraq (3 %).


Reference: Arab Christian Site (unfortunately, Arabs but didn’t accept Islam):

B.    Jews lived peacefully under Muslim rule till the declaration of State of Israel and starting the war between them and the Arabs: 

Jewish Refugees from Arab Countries, almost 600,000 Jews emigrated from Arab countries to Israel; there will living under Islamic rule since 1400 years:

C.   How Jews, who lived 800 years with the Muslims in Andalusia, were expelled just 2 months after Muslims were defeated by the Christians Spanish:

The Spanish Expulsion, 1492
 
About Takiyah, we muslims (Sunnah) don’t lie in our beliefs, otherwise the first muslims would use it when they were heavily beaten and tortured to death, watch:

The Message (MOVIE) = Mohammed (SAAW) 4-18

The Message (MOVIE) = Mohammed (SAAW) 5-18

Watch all movie if you are strong enough…
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Is there any contradictions in Quran…

Dear,

I just picked one of your false allegations, just to show you and the others:

Sura 42: As Shura (Consultation, Counsel) 42:51
Allah speaks from behind a veil, or through sending a messenger; Allah never speaks directly.
Contradiction: 53:11 says Muhammad saw Allah with his own eyes.
The second verse says 53:11: The heart did not lie [about] what it saw.

The verse didn’t say anything about eyes seeing, and the verses are talking about seeing the Holy Ghost Gabriel in his original picture and not by GOD, and when Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was asked: did you see almighty God, he said “NEVER”.

So, stop mixing the verses of Quran between each others, you will not understand them by yourself ever unless reading from Muslim books or educated muslims explain it to you.

You have to learn Arabic for 2 years minimum to start understanding the words and their meanings, then you need minimum 4 years to study “TAFSIR”, which is Quran interpretation till you know the meaning of each verse, some are related to other verses, and some are related to events, and some explained by prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by an authentic Hadith, and some is explained by the companions. 

So, stop trying to deceive others from understanding the real ISLAM.

About the questions that I asked you, you didn’t answer me, I didn’t ask you to paste the verses from the Bible, I asked you about the form the nature of your GOD, Who is he? Please answer me honestly, and answer my questions about “crucifixion”.
Regards,
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Is there any grammatical errors in Quran (1):

My friend, imagine that Quran has grammatical mistakes and it came in middle of Arabia and in front of all Arab people and no one discovered that there are such mistakes, till you came and discovered them, what an intelligence that you have !!!

My friend, the only industry that was available in Arabia during prophet Muhammad was “the Arabic Language” they had 3 yearly markets for Poem competitions, with dedicated judges to select the most articulate one, imagine that Prophet Muhammad  (PBUH) came to them with a book full of mistakes and all Arabs followed him, and they didn’t discover these errors except you !!

I think you know already but since you are so smart, you may forget that all Arabic Language scholars took that language of Quran as reference for them, so if they want to know the correct use of any Arabic word they refer it to one of its verses.

Any way, if you want to know the correct “E’arrab” of any word in Quran you can refer to this site, which explains each word of it grammatically, and hope you understand..


Praise all to ALLAH, who says:

Lo! those who disbelieve spend their wealth in order that they may debar (men) from the way of Allah. They will spend it, then it will become an anguish for them, then they will be conquered And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto hell, (Anfal:36)

Thank you ALLAH..
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Is there any grammatical errors in Quran (2):

No my friend, you didn’t understand yet, I will explain it to you again:
  • If a cowboy challenges a well known, very famous Doctor that he knows better than him in Heart surgery, will be logic that the Doctor argues with him trying to convince him or not?
  • If a sheep boy challenges a well known, very famous architecture that he knows better than him in building a skyscraper, will it be logic that this engineer argues with him on this or not?
In the same way, I am trying to convince you that your argument is wrong and impossible, and if it’s correct that there were a single grammatical error in Quran, no single Arab would follow the prophet ever, it’s their language and it’s their daily work and they born with it, there is no comparison between them and your friend who had to learn Arabic in primary school to understand how to write his name !!

Therefore, your argument is false and it’s wrong to discuss it even …

As throwing a stone to hit the sky, you will not touch it, but it will fall over your head.
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Is there any grammatical errors in Quran (3):

Regarding the Arabic grammar, I already replied to you and if the argument that I used (Dr & sheep boy) didn’t convince you then nothing can convince you, but I will summarize it to you again:

That unbelievers Arabs used everything to fight prophet Muhammad (PBUH), they used all possible weapons, whether good or mean, accepted or forbidden, they accused him that he is liar, magician, they cursed him any place he goes, they shouted on him, hit him, stole him, fought him, threw stones and dirty things on him, put fire on his way, digging holes to throw him in, tried to assassin him, kidnap him, poisoning him, and many others…

Also, they did everything possible to stop people from hearing or listen to him, they initiated an evil propaganda against him in all tribes in all Arabia, that even if a stranger comes to Makkah he put cotton in his ears so he don’t listen to someone might be the prophet, but when one of them saw him praying next to Kabbah at night, and reading Quran in his prayers, he said to himself: at least I have mind, let me listen and then judge by myself, so when he listen to his prayers, he accepted Islam immediately…

So with all this furious fight, no one discovered these errors in Quran grammar except YOU !!!
Believe me, your argument is the most stupid weapon that can be used to fight Islam, there are much more arguments that you can use instead (although all can be defeated in God’s will), but please follow me in this and don’t say that again.
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Listening to The Holy Quran

Dear,

This is Quran our God’s words; you can’t compare it with a song or any other human words.
Quran is a guidance book for us, all human kind; it’s a miracle both in its writing, words, scientifically and mathematically too.

Quran is a cure for human soul, you can read it on a depressed human, and see how his soul will calm and feel peace, try it in a haunted house or on a person and see how devils will leave him, in God’s will.

Just try it on a disturbed crying enfant or child for few minutes (not being hungry or sick), let him listen to it, and see how he calms and sleep in few minutes…
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Why referring to bible if it’s corrupted?

Dear my friend,

Yes I agree with you, part of the bible is corrupted and for many reasons:

First, it was not promised to be reserved for all times, as mentioned only in Quran, that it will be reserved till last days on Earth and shortly before the Day of Resurrection. 
 
Second, the bible and old Testament were meant only for their people and for their days and because of that there is no need to be reserved, as the last book from God the “Quran” will dominate them and its rules are the only ones to be followed.

Yes, true its corrupted and there are many evidences for that:

o   All original copies of bible (old, new) are missing, while 3 of 5 for original copies of Quran are still kept in Tashqand, Egypt and Turkey.

o   The earliest copies of bible are not in Jesus language, while Quran is still in Arabic.

o   Bible versions are still changing with days, and you can follow the new version on RSV bible, while Quran is not changed.

o   Quran was written in Prophet Muhammad days, and he used to review it with his companions, he asks them to write it immediately while reading it to them after being revealed from God to him by Angel Gabriel, then he asks them to repeat it again to him, and he used to review it with them, and he said to them many times: I like to hear it from someone other than me, all this was never happen in Jesus (PBUH) days, even you can’t differentiate between Jesus words, God’s words, or even the narrator words (he went there, ate there, did there, ..)

o   Quran was collected in the next year of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) death, by his followers, but for bible, nobody knows who and how they collected all these writings, and Luke, John, Mathew, and Mark never met Jesus personally in his life.

Despite all these, yes I am using bible to refer prophecies about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) arrival, WHY??

Because with all such corruption especially those which meant to remove the name of the prophet, still there are 10-13 clear prophecies about him and what I mentioned above are 2 of them (don’t forget the name of Muhammad in Alarmia language that you hear in passion of the Christ).

Don’t forget that during the first years of Islam many scholars and priests, Jews and Christians, had joined and accepted Islam, and they put a lot of books about what previous scriptures talked about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and the original copies are still exist till now in Muslims books, but I didn’t paste them to you, because those are muslims now and I can’t refer to them.
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Barnabas Bible

I can give you a lot of examples on and on, but I will refer you to Barnabas bible, and this was the only apostle who wrote Jesus words in his life, you can check it on barnabas.net, hope you’ll have time to read it, but you will discover many important things, but the most thing is the completion of all uncompleted stories in rest of bibles, which you will notice that immediately.

 Note, don’t repeat the story of writing Barnabas by Muslims, for many things:

  • Muslims don’t use lie to prove the truth, it’s already supported by God, and Muslims are increasing by God’s will since day one, so there is no need to lie, also it’s forbidden in Islam.
  • The 2 original copies of Barnabas were written in Spanish and Italian, so tell me just one name of an Arab writer name who wrote it in foreign language before the 20th century.
You will never find, they didn’t learn other than Arabic because it’s their language and Quran language, rather than write it in 2 European languages and put them inside the Vatican library, and WHEN???? in medieval centuries, where during if someone says Earth is a sphere they will put him on Fire !!!!!!
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Son of Man in Luke

You asked me to read: Gospel of Luke, I just finished from reading and analyzing it verse by verse, but I would like to tell that I have discovered something that I would like to share it with you, especially in Luke bible:

Jesus Christ (PBUH) had never said about himself as “Son of GOD” ever in the whole bible.
“Son of man” were mentioned x 26 times in Luke, most of them by Jesus himself, in:

Luke 5:24, 6:5, 6:22, 7:34, 9:22, 9:26, 9:44, 9:56, 9:58, 11:30, 12:8, 12:10, 12:40, 17:22, 17:24, 17:26, 17:30, 18:8, 18:31, 19:10, 21:27, 21:36, 22:22, 22:48, 22:69, 24:7.

But “Son of God” has been mentioned only 7 times in Luke and guess by whom:
  • Luke 1:35, by an Angel
  • Luke 3:38, as Adam son of God
  • Luke 4:3, by Devil himself
  • Luke 4:9, by Satan
  • Luke 4:41, by devils
  • Luke 8:28, by a man had devils
  • Luke 22:70, by elders, priests who executed him
Analyze this and think about it!

Son of man: 26 in Luke, 11 in John, 14 in Mark, 30 in Mathew = 81
Son of God: 8 in Mathew, 3 in Mark, 7 in Luke, 10 in John = 28
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False prophets in Bible

Dear,

I checked about the false prophets, and I found it in Mathew clearer than in Luke, where he said:

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. [Mathew 24:24]

And guess what, prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said the same thing that:

“There will be false prophets after me, around 30, 4 of them will be women, they will talk in something that you never heard or your fathers heard”

It seems that both prophecies complete each others, and regarding prophet Muhammad I quote from your speech: “

-          “Muhammad performed no miracles, spoke no prophecies, and died like all mortal men:”

Therefore, he is not included in Jesus prophecy about false prophets.

You told me to read LUKE, and I showed you what is in Luke, but since you are a good friend you proved my theory, you pasted 32 quotations from all bibles and not even a single one is said by Jesus (PBUH) himself that he is SON OF GOD !!!.

I will not paste too much here, because of Admin comment, but please search in the 4 bibles only, you will find Jesus himself saying about himself: “SON OF MAN” , 81 X times !!!
God bless all.
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Virgins in Bible

Dear,

It seems that you who like “Virgins” a lot, you almost mention them in each of your post, maybe it’s an old desire for you that was not satisfied and still hurting you till now !!!

For your info, “Virgins” were mentioned in Quran only Twice:

  • Describing the women in paradise, which is very logic, the men and women will be created as new born of 30 years old, and since there is no time clicking there, so their age will not change.
  • Second, it was a warning from God to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) wives to stop annoying him, or he will replace them all by previously married women or virgin women, which was never done and they all stayed with him.
 But, in the bible, “Virgin” word was mentioned 65 times !!! and the weird thing it equals between the non-virgin “divorced or widow” and whore or dirty woman , imagine that !!! :

14 A widow, or a divorced woman, or profane, or an harlot, these shall he not take: but he shall take a virgin of his own people to wife. [Leviticus 21:14]
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About bible changing with time:

Do you know that your bibles change with time, and at end of each study Christian scholars change the text because after checking more old copies they discover many phrases that were corrupted by bad writers, so they try to correct it again, as example, the verse that mention Jesus as the “begotten son”:

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” [John 3:16] – King James version.

In the new Revised Standard Version of Bible, or what is called shortly RSV Bible, this word “Begotton” was eliminated, WHY because it was not correct and they didn’t find it in all old scriptures of the bibles, and you can check it by yourself on the following site, and the new verse become as following without “begotten son” !!! bible.oremus.org

16 ‘For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. [John 3:16]
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“He Will Guide You Into All Truth”

Dear,

About Jesus prophecy that Muhammad (PBUH) “will guide you into all truth”:

Below is the list of subjects in Sahih Al Bukhari, the most authentic Hadith (saying) of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), transferred by his companions to us, check the list and compare it with the list that you may have for the subjects that holy ghost talked to you or to any Christian church during the last 2000 years after Jesus.

And, please compare it with the list of subjects that Jesus (PBUH) talked about in the bible:

1.    Revelation
2.    Belief
3.    Knowledge
4.    Ablutions (Wudu')
5.    Bathing (Ghusl)
6.    Menstrual Periods  
7.    Rubbing hands and feet with dust (Tayammum)
8.    Prayers (Salat)
9.    Virtues of the Prayer Hall (Sutra of the Musalla)
10.  Times of the Prayers  
11.  Call to Prayers (Adhaan)  
12.  Characteristics of Prayer  
13.  Friday Prayer  
14.  Fear Prayer  
15.  The Two Festivals (Eids)  
16.  Witr Prayer
17.  Invoking Allah for Rain (Istisqaa)  
18.  Eclipses  
19.  Prostration During Recital of Qur'an  
20.  Shortening the Prayers (At-Taqseer)  
21.  Prayer at Night (Tahajjud)
22.  Actions while Praying  
23.  Funerals (Al-Janaa'iz)  
24.  Obligatory Charity Tax (Zakat)
25.  Obligatory Charity Tax After Ramadaan (Zakat ul Fitr)
26.  Pilgrimmage (Hajj)  
27.  Minor Pilgrammage (Umra)
28.  Pilgrims Prevented from Completing the Pilgrimmage
29.  Penalty of Hunting while on Pilgrimmage  
30.  Virtues of Madinah  
31.  Fasting  
32.  Praying at Night in Ramadaan (Taraweeh)
33.  Retiring to a Mosque for Remembrance of Allah (I'tikaf)
34.  Sales and Trade
35.  Sales in which a Price is paid for Goods to be Delivered Later (As-Salam)
36.  Hiring
37.  Transferance of a Debt from One Person to Another (Al-Hawaala)
38.  Representation, Authorization, Business by Proxy
39.  Agriculture
40.  Distribution of Water
41.  Loans, Payment of Loans, Freezing of Property, Bankruptcy
42.  Lost Things Picked up by Someone (Luqaata)
43.  Oppressions
44.  Partnership
45.  Mortgaging
46.  Manumission of Slaves  
47.  Gifts
48.  Witnesses
49.  Peacemaking  
50.  Conditions
51.  Wills and Testaments (Wasaayaa)
52.  Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)  
53.  One-fifth of Booty to the Cause of Allah (Khumus)
54.  Beginning of Creation  
55.  Prophets
56.  Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions
57.  Companions of the Prophet
58.  Merits of the Helpers in Madinah (Ansaar)
59.  Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi)
60.  Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an (Tafseer of the Prophet (pbuh))
61.  Virtues of the Qur'an
62.  Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah)
63.  Divorce
64.  Supporting the Family
65.  Food, Meals
66.  Sacrifice on Occasion of Birth (`Aqiqa)
67.  Hunting, Slaughtering
68.  Al-Adha Festival Sacrifice (Adaahi)
69.  Drinks
70.  Patients
71.  Medicine
72.  Dress  
73.  Good Manners and Form (Al-Adab)
74.  Asking Permission  
75.  Invocations
76.  To make the Heart Tender
77.  Divine Will (Al-Qadar)
78.  Oaths and Vows  
79.  Expiation for Unfulfilled Oaths
80.  Laws of Inheritance (Al-Faraa'id)
81.  Limits and Punishments set by Allah (Hudood)
82.  Punishment of Disbelievers at War with Allah and His Apostle
83.  Blood Money (Ad-Diyat)
84.  Dealing with Apostates
85.  Saying Something under Compulsion (Ikraah)
86.  Tricks
87.  Interpretation of Dreams
88.  Afflictions and the End of the World
89.  Judgments (Ahkaam)
90.  Wishes
91.  Accepting Information Given by a Truthful Person
92.  Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah
93.  ONENESS, UNIQUENESS OF ALLAH (TAWHEED)
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