Friday, May 6, 2011

Debate on Christian sites over Islam (8) – Why Islam is Propagating so fast? Prophet’s Companions (Sahaba), To an Arab Christian, To an X-Muslim, The Religion of Peace, Laughing on Muslim.

Why Islam is Propagating so Fast?

Although it’s a good news, but I think you are exaggerating a little bit, 2050 is still far means after 40 years, I think Islam will conquer even much earlier, we already 25% of all world population, it’s enough to have 30% as muslims, this means every house there will be one muslim at least, whether the father, mother, son, or a daughter is a muslim, and this member will do the rest of the work.

Islam is always promoting even in worst times, for many reasons:
Women and youth are the most people who accept Islam, because of its simplicity, answers, and details that satisfy any one.

Islam beliefs don’t include any mysteries or probabilities or secrets that nobody knows their answers, it is straight forward and clear like a Sun shining…

Islam has no contradictions; its concepts can be explained to a Bedouin in a desert or a framer on top of Himalayas or Technology professor in MIT or Harvard universities, all in the same way:

There is only one God who created all universe and we have to worship him, but how?
God showed us the way by his prophets, and the last one is Muhammad (PBUH), who came after Jesus.
Every prophet may have a book and rules that fit his generation and his time, till the last sent prophet.

How can you know that prophet is real one?

They all assemble a single chain: each prophet of them had talked about the one before him and prophesized about the next one coming after him.

How do you know the Muhammad is the successive of Jesus?  

By the following verses from the Bible:
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: [John 4:2]

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. [John 14:16-17]

7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [John 16:7-8]

12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [John 16:12-14]

So, do all these conditions apply on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)? Let’s see:

Did he come after a while after Jesus (PBUH)? Yes, 570 years later…

Did he confess that Jesus of flesh and not a divine or Son of GOD? Yes, as great apostle sent by God to Children of Israel

Are the revealed book to him (Quran) and all his authentic sayings (Hadith) staying with us till now 1400 years, kept and unchanged, means did he (his commands) stay with us forever? Yes, (By his commandments Not by his person physically) …

Did he guide all human kind for all truth, about God, clarify the real nature of Jesus (PBUH), prophets, all details that human needs? Yes
Did he tell us about times to come? Yes

Did he glorify Jesus and his mother Mary? Yes, Jesus was mentioned 25 times in Quran, and there is a Chapter called Marry (19) in the middle of Quran.

Did he speak about himself? He was mentioned by name only 4 times in Quran, nothing about his parents, cousins, sons, daughters, tribe, nothing at all..

Does he speak from God only and not from himself? Yes, as he hears he speak, nothing from himself as he confirmed by himself and in Quran..

To an Arab Christian

Brother Abdallah

We offered you a forum that very few would be willing to duplicate. While we tolerate, and even appreciate your comments, we must ask that you try to keep them to a “Sub-Leo Tolstoy,” level.
Also Brother, If you should like, we can arrange a debate, in Arabic, regarding the Koran and it’s misguided followers.

My Reply:

Sorry for being rude, but I didn’t understand exactly what bothered you in my previous comment, I just gave an advice that if he wishes to take it or leave it, it’s his decision, I wish that he were a muslim brother or at least not an Islam-hater, we might help him more…

About your tolerance, I sincerely thank you for that, but if you noticed well I don’t comment on any of your economical or political issues, as it’s not my business, and most of my comments are on those who comment on your articles, and want to paste everything evil in this entire world “or in their souls” on Islam and on muslims, which I don’t think that at any muslim of the 1.6 billion muslims may accept it, and I am trying very politely to correct such ideas, of course we debate over some Islamic or Christian principles, but honestly I consider it as intellectual game no more.
About “the debate even in Arabic”, appreciate your invitation but I am not qualified to represent all muslims in such context, I am not even an Islamic scholar and never had an Islamic course in any college in my entire life, my information are from my readings, books, internet, etc.., so you have to choose better one and I am sure you can find many muslim brothers who are much better and knowledgeable than me …

About “to keep them to a Sub-Leo Tolstoy level”, sorry again for my ignorance, I also didn’t understand what do you mean: “to be my writing like Leo-Tolstoy”, is this a condition only on Muslims?, but for our Christians friends they are allowed to use all possible dirty words, terms, expressions in English or other Latin languages about our most holy prophet,  this is allowed and no problem for you, but for muslims they have to be on Leo-Tolstoy level !! Come on …

Regarding misguidance of Quran,

If this holy book teaches us: how to clean ourselves, how to pray, fast, pay charities, perform Hajj, eat, drink, have children, raise them, love and respect ourselves, worship our Creator, brotherhood, good morals, avoid all evil things, respect life, and also how to be patient, compassionate, tolerant, and, and, and, etc…

And also inform us what will happen to us on death, after death, how to keep our good deeds running even after our death, what will happen on resurrection day, how the questioning will be, how will enter the paradise or hell (God forbidden), what we will eat there, how will live there forever (in paradise in God will)..

Then, I prefer to keep misguided instead of been enlighten by a religion that allows everything: eat anything, drink anything, Fu... (sorry, sorry) sleep with anything, treat anyone anyway, do anything you want, pay or don’t pay, pray or don’t pray, mention God or don’t mention God, kill, rape, etc ….. all the same, you will be forgiven by Jesus Christ (PBUH) who will take over all your sins !!!

(Note, Jesus (PBUH) is among the most respected and beloved Prophets in Islam)

But I have a question for you brother as Arab Christian , who lived peacefully among the muslims for 1400 years as you never heard about muslims had destroyed a church ever, till now the oldest churches are in Muslim countries, even the keys of the most holy churches in Jerusalem and Bethlehem are kept with muslim families who open them and close them every day, so Christians groups don’t fight between each others on the keys!!

And during all Islamic history there were many Christians and Jews as ministers, scientists, writers, advisors for Muslims governors, although they may pay “Jezya” for some time but it was very much less than Zakat (or current taxes!!) that muslims have to pay, and it may reach 10% of their profit in some cases and also have to defend the country (i.e. military service which all Christians and Jews were exempted from).

With all of that, when you go to any western counties, the first thing (some of, not all for sure) you do is to act as “false witness” on Islam and Muslims, and you mostly provide them with misleading and sometimes translate to them some references from muslim interviews or speeches or books in very controversy way that make them feel disgusting about the Islam and the “Savage” muslims.

Anyhow, my question to you my dear as an “Arab Christian”:

WHY do you hate Islam and especially hate us the Arab Muslims so much??

Is it because we were Christians before like you and converted to Islam (Thanks God), Is it Jealousy only or what?

No Answer..

To an X-Muslim

I was born into a confessional home. Islam is the blanket with which my mother wrapped me up when she nursed me and sang to me and prayed over me. I imbibed aspects of Islam with my mother’s milk. I inherited Islam from my parents and it was the cradle which held me until I found Christ. Islam is my mother. You don’t engage a person by telling them their mother is ugly.

My Reply:

Allah says in the holy Quran:

[And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever."] (Albaqra - 217)

This is the only answer that can be given to someone like that, he thought that Islam teachings come with his mother milk, NO he is mistaken, Islam comes as Angle Gabriel came to Prophet Muhammad and said to him:

READ, and prophet answered him: I am not a reader, then he repeated it again and again:

READ, READ then he recited the first words of Quran ever:

Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists), (1)
He has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood) (2)
Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous, (3)
Who has taught (the writing) by the pen. (4)
He has taught man that which he knew not. (5)

I searched about him on Wikipedia, and it seems that he wrote the article about himself by himself, and he didn’t left any compliment without referring it to himself !!
[who is said to be respected by Muslim authorities as a "Muslim follower of Christ,” has become is a powerful force for peace and healing between Muslims and Christians] Quoted from Wikipedia.

Very strange, that he thought that he gained a high respect, where in reality, Muslims never heard about him in any of their media, and if any muslim knows about him they will disgrace him, because he replaced the light of Islam with the darkness and decided to throw himself in hell fire, unless he repent to God again..

The way that this article is written is like mixing the honey with the poison, think that Muslims will be deceived by such person, they forgot that Prophet Muhammad said once when he saw his companion Omar reading a paper of the Torah: “Reading it and I am [a holy prophet sent by God living] among you!!!, Wallah [I swear in God] if Moses was alive he couldn’t success unless he followed me.”

If he really wants to be a disciple for Jesus [PBUH] he has to follow the last prophet from God, Muhammad [PBUH] there is no other way…

Christianity in Iran

I think the following statement is not totally correct:
[But Iranians never were Christians. So the churches they are forming and the sort of Christianity they are constructing is genuinely something brand new, and not simply a newer version of something ancient.]

[Christianity in Iran has had a long history, dating back to the very early years of the faith. It has always been a minority religion, overshadowed by the majority state religions — Zoroastrianism in the past, and Shia Islam today — though it had a much larger representation in the past than it does today. Christians of Iran have played a significant part in the history of Christian mission. Today, there are at least 600 churches in Iran]

Allah says in Quran:

They intend to put out the Light of Allâh (i.e. the Religion of Islâm, this Qur'ân, and the Prophet Muhammad SAW) with their mouths. But Allâh will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it). (8)
He it is Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islâmic Monotheism) to make it victorious over all (other) religions even though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh and in His Messenger Muhammed SAW) hate (it). (9) [Al-saff]

Growth Of Islam on youtube,

Although it’s prepared by our Christians friends, but really nice we couldn’t do it better, Thanks.

The Sahaba (Prophet Companions) 

As usual you like always to mix the honey with the poison, but let’s separate them:

1- The Sahaba: are the companions of prophet Muhammad (PBUH), they were the best of their time (even the sinner of them like this woman), and were selected by God to follow his last prophet to humankind, and to protect him by everything they can, and to fight with him till he delivers his message till end.

And they didn’t stop there but carried the message of Islam to all over the world, to China border in the east, some of them were buried near Kaboul, and to Altantic ocean in the west, and some were buried in Morocco, some were buried in Istanboul and Bukhara in north, and some died in Noba in South Sudan.

Just an example: When Prophet Muhammad asked them if they will fight with him before Bader, the first battle in Islam, they answered him:

We will not say as what Jews had answered Moses: Go and fight with your God, No, but Go and we will fight all with you, WALLAH (swear in God) if you want us to cross the sea on feet we will cross it with you !!!

Compare those with your Sahaba: Jesus companions:
  •  Did they defend their prophet? No…
  •  Did they protect him from Romans and other Jews? No…
  •  Did they try to save him from his capture? NO..
Wish they stopped here, one had betrayed him for few money, and the other ignored him completely!!!

2- About stoning the Muslim Woman during Prophet Muhammad times:

You can’t compare it with the story of the woman who they brought her to Jesus, if they did similar with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) he will not stone her too…

They brought her as test to Jesus to see if he will apply God’s Law, but he knows that they are sinner more than her, and when he started writing on the ground, he made a mirror on ground so they can see their sins first, they were worst than her, and if Jesus have to stone her, he must stone them all first:

Read the complete and correct story from Barnabas Gospel:

Chapter 201 

[Jesus having entered into the Temple, the scribes and Pharisees brought to him a woman taken in adultery. They said among themselves: 'If he save her, it is contrary to the Law of Moses, and so we have him as guilty, and if he condemn her it is contrary to his own doctrine, for he preaches mercy.' Wherefore they came to Jesus and said: 'Master, we have found this woman in adultery. Moses commanded that [such] should be stoned: what then say you?'

Thereupon Jesus stooped down and with his finger made a mirror on the ground wherein every one saw his own iniquities. They still pressed for the answer, Jesus lifted up himself As and, pointing to the mirror with his finger, said: 'He that is without sin among you, let him be first to stone her.' And again he stooped down, shaping the mirror. The men, seeing this, went out one by one, beginning from the eldest, for they were ashamed to see their abominations. ]

Which is completely different than muslim story, because the woman came by herself to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) asking for purification, nobody asked her to do so, and he delayed her more than once and for 3 years, but she insisted many times to be punished her in this life than in afterlife..

I wish that you completed the story, when she was stoned, one of the muslims talked about her wrongly, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) warned him that she repented to God and had a forgiveness that can cover all people in Madina, and she is swimming now in Paradise rivers..

Hope this will clear your thoughts…



The religion of Peace

1- About Mo’atah battle:

The Muslims never said they were victorious there, they retreated in very smart way led by Khaled, so the Romans don’t see them and follow them to Madina, when they reached there the Children of Sahaba start throwing stones on them and called them “Retreaters”, but Prophet Muhammad stopped them, because he knows that it’s a losing battle and they can’t fight an army which 20 times more.

Also, Muslim confess that they didn’t win in Ohud and which mentioned clearly in Quran no muslim can deny it, and it was test from God to them, that they can be defeated any time, if they didn’t obey Prophets’ commands.

Also, Muslims were almost being defeated too in Hunayn, but God saved his Apostle and the Muslims too.

Also, Muslim surrounded Taa’f with the prophet and couldn’t open it, and Prophet Muhammad decided to return back to Madina, telling his Sahaba that they (Taa’f leaders) will come to them soon, and that what happen..

So, don’t claim that Muslims say that they are always victorious, be honest in transferring our talk…

2- Now for Jesus (PBUH), don’t you think that he didn’t do any Jihad ever, or he will never fight ever??

Didn’t he come to the temple and destroyed everything inside and kicked out the people from there, and he was alone or with 12 disciples, imagine what he will do if he had 100, or 1000, or 10000, believe me he will destroy it to stone as he promised…

12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. [Mathew 21]

3- About the religion of Peace, that you don’t like, let’s prove it in logically way:

You are now much educated and more advanced and reached the moon and soon you will reach the Mars.

Let’s compare Arabia before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH):

Bunch of tribes, living in the deserts, killing and fighting each others, raping and stealing each others, worship stones, drunk, burying the female girls because they hate women, example:

One of infidels took his 3 years daughter and start digging and she was standing next to him removing the dust from his clothes, then he put her in the hole and start covering her with dust, she started screaming and hold his hand, she kept holding it till she died then its hand fell…..

Can you imagine, Those were the Arabs before Islam !!!

Then the Quran had come and Muhammad was selected to be the last prophet and verses start descending on him and he start struggling to deliver the message of God, verses such as:

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

When the sun is wound round and lost its light. (1)

And when the stars fall; (2)

And when the mountains are made to pass away; (3)

And when the pregnant she-camels are be neglected; (4)

And when the wild beasts are gathered together; (5)

And when the seas become as blazing Fire; (6)

And when the souls are joined with their bodies. (7)

And when the female (infant) buried alive (as the pagan Arabs used to do) is questioned.[] (8)

For what sin was she killed? (9) At-Takweir

After 23 years, all Arabia from Jordon and Iraqi border till Yemen and Oman in South, they become muslims, with casualties counted for 230 total where 130 of them were muslims (more than infidels)…

In other hand:

The most civilized and modern country occupied 2 countries after 2001 which have area both almost equal to Arabia’s, for 9 years since 2001:

How many you were able to convert? None..

How many casualties? Secret, but mostly in thousands !!

How many casualties from the 2 occupied countries? 500,000 both even more !!

So, do you know now why Islam is called a peaceful religion …

Note, if you are not convinced yet, take the Crusades as example and compare the casualties, they were in millions !!!

To who may like to listen to the above Chapter of Takwir:

To read:


Laughing on Muslims

I already entered 2 comments, but seems they scared a lot the site owner so he deleted them, so read them quickly before he deleted them again…

Laugh my friend laugh…..

Laugh as much as you can……..

It’s a tradition that you inherited from your fathers, nothing strange…..

All infields used to laugh on the believers so it’s not strange….

But I reply to you as Noah used to reply to his people when they saw him building the ship and laughed on him:

And it was revealed to Noah: "None of your people will believe except those who have believed already. So be not sad because of what they used to do. (36)

And construct the ship under Our Eyes and with Our Revelation, and call not upon Me on behalf of those who did wrong; they are surely to be drowned." (37)

And as he was constructing the ship, whenever the chiefs of his people passed by him, they made a mocked at him. He said: "If you mock at us, so do we mock at you likewise for your mocking (38)

"And you will know who it is on whom will come a torment that will cover him with disgrace and on whom will fall a lasting torment." (39) [Houd]

And the most important, who laughs at end, who laughs on the Day of Judgment, this is the most important, where is no computer and desk there, it will be a hell fire and heaven…

Verily, (during the worldly life) those who committed crimes used to laugh at those who believed. (29)

And whenever they passed by them, used to wink one to another (in mockery); (30)

And when they returned to their own people, they would return jesting; (31)

And when they saw them, they said: "Verily, these have indeed gone astray!" (32)

But they (disbelievers, sinners) had not been sent as watchers over them (the believers). (33)

But this Day (the Day of Resurrection) those who believe will laugh at the disbelievers(34)

On (high) thrones, looking (at all things). (35)

Are not the disbelievers paid (fully) for what they used to do? (36) [Mutafifien]

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