Sunday, May 1, 2011
Debate on Christian sites over Islam (5) – To an Extremist Islam-hater, Muslim Beliefs, The moon God, Eating swine meat, washing before praying, Slavery in Islam,..
To an Extremist Islam-hater
I understand your fear and your pain, you can’t imagine that muslims are different that the image that you build it in your mind, you can’t imagine that Muslims love Jesus (PBUH) and respect him and his mother Mary, you can’t imagine that we don’t kill, rape or torture women, or children, or animals.
You can’t imagine that we pay from our money and wealth to feed the poor, to help the orphans and widows.
You can’t imagine that muslims pray to almighty GOD alone and worship him alone, the creator of the universe, him ONLY without any partner whatsoever.
You can’t imagine that we believe in heavens and hill, and the Day of Judgment.
You can’t imagine that we believe in all prophets starting from Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Josef, David, Solomon till Muhammad (PBUT), you can’t imagine that we believe in all books that God sent to people.
Because of that you build walls around your mind of false allegations, misconceptions and misinterpretation about Islam and his prophet and when you hear a muslim voice all your walls will fall and destroy just in one blow.
Because of that you become furious and so angry and afraid that your beliefs will be touched, as they are already shaking.
All your allegations can’t be believed even by a small muslim boy who will know that you are lying.
Just to destroy your lies once again and again and again, if muslims are that bad like you say, then:
WHY the muslims countries are the lowest in crime rate all over the world, the 1st muslim country in crime rate ranks the 40, the first 39 countries are all Christians !!!!!
Another gift for you, you lied on our prophet Muhammad name, and mentioned something that he never said before, so as Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: “Whoever lies on my name, expect his place in Hell”.
So, Congratulations !! you reserved your place in HELL Already.
I asked one question about your GOD nature or form, and till now you didn’t give me the answer, I will repeat it to you again, but to give you a hint, search first for conference of Nicosia in 313 AD, when it was proposed for the first time that Jesus is not a messenger of God but Son of God as requested by Roman Empire who wasn’t a Christian even, and which was refused by all priests in the conference.
About Muslim Beliefs
Yes, we love Jesus and all prophets but we don’t worship them, believe it or not? If you want to make sure meet some muslims and ask them, even you will find some of them call their children by the name of “ISA = Jesus” too.
Yes, we have SHAR’IA and we are proud of it, and we die for it, it’s the same commandments that prophet Moses brought from God and Jesus (PBUH) said to keep it, and in God’s will, we will keep them till the last day on Earth, till we meet our GOD, and we will never abandon it as Christians did.
Yes, we pay to all poor Muslims or non-Muslims, and currently in Ramadan there are many meals that are delivered to all poor every day of Ramadan in the US, if you want you can go and visit it’s for free.
Just for you info, we treat all whether muslims or non-muslims the same, Prophet Muhmmad said “Don’t betrayed even who betrayed you”, “Muslim does not lie (even on animal)”, “A woman entered paradise because she gave a thirsty dog some water and God forgives her for this”
Yes, O mighty God name in Arabic is “ALLAH” and ask all Arab Christians what is the name of your God and how it’s written in Arabic Bible, they will answer you: his name is “ALLAH”, even in Jesus (PBUH) language in Aramic language, he said “ALLAH”, you can listen to it in “Passion of Christ” by yourself, search on youtube for “Passion of the Christ (PBUH) mentions about Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as Mentioned in the Bible”
Yes, we believe in paradise and we wish to enter it, in God’s will, with all our family, wife, children, and friends, for those who commit suicide mostly will go to Hell, as Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: “who killed himself by a thing, he will be tutored by it in hell fire”.
Yes, it’s true SATAN believes in GOD, but work hardly to deceive people and throw them all with him in hell, it’s not enough to believe but to follow too, listen what SATAN will say to all people who followed him in the Day of Judgment:
And Shaitân (Satan) will say when the matter has been decided: "Verily, Allâh promised you a promise of truth. And I too promised you, but I betrayed you. I had no authority over you except that I called you, so you responded to me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I deny your former act in associating me (Satan) as a partner with Allâh (by obeying me in the life of the world). Verily, there is a painful torment for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers)." (22) And those who believed (in the Oneness of Allâh and His Messengers and whatever they brought) and did righteous deeds, will be made to enter Gardens under which rivers flow, - to dwell therein forever (i.e.in Paradise), with the permission of their Lord. Their greeting therein will be: Salâm (peace!) (23) [Ibrahim 22,23]
“TAQIYAA” is used only in one case and if a muslim has been caught by enemy and tortured him to death, then he can lie to save himself and muslims army and not to reveal any of muslim army secrets, and I think it is the same instruction given by all armies in the world to their soldiers: “LIE and don’t reveal military secrets”, otherwise they’ll go to military court for sure.
Rape penalty in muslim country is set to Death.
He doesn’t believe in Hell now, but the day when he believes it will be too late, listen to what people of Hell will say and when they call God to forgive them, read the answer carefully:
And those whose scales (of good deeds) are light, they are those who lose their ownselves, in Hell will they abide. (103)
The Fire will burn their faces, and therein they will grin, with displaced lips (disfigured). (104)
"Were not My Verses (this Qur'ân) recited to you, and then you used to deny them?" (105)
They will say: "Our Lord! Our wretchedness overcame us, and we were (an) erring people. (106)
"Our Lord! Bring us out of this; if ever we return (to evil), then indeed we shall be unjust (wrong-doers)." (107)
He (Allâh) will say: "Remain you in it with ignominy! And speak you not to Me!" (108)
Verily! there was a party of My slaves, who used to say: "Our Lord! We believe, so forgive us, and have mercy on us, for You are the Best of all who show mercy!" (109)
But you took them for a laughingstock, so much so that they made you forget My Remembrance while you used to laugh at them! (110)
Verily! I have rewarded them this Day for their patience, they are indeed the ones that are successful. (111) [Moueenoun 103-111]
He (Allâh) will say: "What number of years did you stay on earth?" (112)
They will say: "We stayed a day or part of a day. Ask of those who keep account." (113)
He (Allâh) will say: "You stayed not but a little, if you had only known! (114)
"Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?" (115)
The moon God !!
Please go and ask a little muslim girl in any nursery class: “is your GOD is the moon?” and see what will be the answer? (warning: you may be slapped in your face)..
If you have Quran in English, go to the last page and read the Chapter of “IKHLAS”:
Say He is Allâh, (the) One. (1) the Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need (2) "He begets not, nor was He begotten (3) "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." (4)
Also, you can go to youtube and watch the movie “The Message” about Islam, you can go to last part and see when muslims entered Mecca how they destroyed all idols under their feet..
2nd- There is no need to build churches for US soldiers in Saudi Arabia, thanks God they are converting to Islam already, read the article: “Islam Growing in America, U.S. Military” on US Department of Defense.
3rd - Arabia is like Vatican in Italy, of course you can’t build a mosque there, similarly all Arabia is holy country, but as Christians you can gather in a house or villa and pray as much as you want.
About all these stories that you mentioned, I never said there is ZERO crime in muslim countries, and even being a muslim doesn’t mean that you guarantee going to paradise or eternal life or become an angle, NO, it just show you the way, you may born as muslim but it’s your choice to continue the road, divert or return back..
About the prophecy of Children of Israel that you mentioned in the bible, we have it the same but in different ending:
And We decreed for the Children of Israel in the Scripture, indeed you would do mischief in land twice and you will become tyrants and extremely arrogant! (4) So, when the promise came for the first of the two, We sent against you slaves of Ours given to terrible warfare. They entered the very innermost parts of your homes. And it was a promise (completely) fulfilled. (5) Then We gave you, a return of victory over them. And We helped you with wealth and children and made you more numerous in man - power. (6) (And We said): "If you do good, you do good for your ownselves, and if you do evil (you do it) against yourselves." Then, when the second promise came to pass, (We permitted your enemies) to disgrace your faces and to enter the mosque (of Jerusalem) as they had entered it before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that fell in their hands. (7) [Isra 4-7]
Hopefully we will live, and see…
To an Extremist Islam-hater
I am really impressed by how much your heart is black, rock-solid, and full of hatred.
You keep lying on Muslims religion, on their prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and on O mighty God, the Lord of all worlds.
You want to launch campaign against muslims and Islam, OK launch it !!
Many before you did that and they lost their money, their lives and they were defeated too, launch it and your will lose again and again and again.
It’s not like Jesus (PBUH) this time, you can’t gather like the priests, elders and the council behind the devil to kill the prophet or stop or alter his message. NO….
The message of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last message from GOD to all humans, and Mighty God promised in his words to protect him from all his enemies:
O Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allâh will protect you from mankind. Verily, Allâh guides not the people who disbelieve. [Al-Maeda 5:67]
And reserve his final book from change:
Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption) [Al-Hijr-15: 9]
And will prevail his followers against their enemies:
And assuredly We sent apostles before thee unto their people. They brought them manifest signs. Then We took vengeance upon those who transgressed. And incumbent upon us was avengement of the believers. [Al-Room 30:47]
And whatever you plan, or you did, or you are doing, or you will do in future, GOD will defeat you and will complete his light, and very soon “in God will”.
Fain would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light however much the disbelievers are averse. [As-Saff – 61:8]
Lo! those who disbelieve spend their wealth in order that they may debar (men) from the way of Allah. They will spend it, then it will become an anguish for them, then they will be conquered. And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto hell, (36) That Allah may separate the wicked from the good, The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell. Such verily are the losers. [Al-Anfal – 8:37]
Eating Swine meat
Since you like pigs, read what is mentioned about it and about pig eaters, so to expect what you will receive:
1- Not to eat swine, and not to touch it, it’s unclean…
7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you. [Leviticus 11:7,8]
2- Not to eat swine, and not to touch, it’s unclean…
8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass. [Deuteronomy 14:8]
3- Swine’s eaters provoked God to anger, and he will punish them for their iniquities..
3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;
4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;
5 Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.
6 Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom,
7 Your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom. [Isaiah 65:3-7]
4- Swine’s eaters and rats eaters are the same…
17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. [Isaiah 66:17]
Washing before praying
Yes, we wash before we pray, and when we pray we bow to our Lord, this was the prayer of all prophets peace be upon them all:
30 And he set the laver between the tent of the congregation and the altar, and put water there, to wash withal.
31 And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat:
32 When they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the LORD commanded Moses. [Exodus 40: 20-22]
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. [Luke 4:8]
19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. [John4:19-22]
Unfortunately, the devil is whispering in your head, and to get rid of him just the read the following:
I seek your refuge with O ALLAH, the All-Hearer, the All-knower, from the SATAN the outcast, from his whisper, and his blow, and his magic.
We finished now with “Virigins” story and start with “Slave women”, you really still living in your mind in medieval and I feel seriously that you have problem with Women kind, somewhere ..
I know that in US they have forbidden slavery just 150 years in 1865. But, do you know when Muslims abounded the Slavery? and why you don’t see slaves in all muslims countries?,
Because they were asked since the start of Islam to release their slaves as much as they can, and whenever they do a “sin” the best thing to do that God forgives you is to release a salve, and day after day, the number of salves decreased till it vanished by itself, not only in Arab countries but in all muslims nations who accepted Islam later on, and Slavery was vanished centuries before you did in America.
You will tell me as they lied in this article that salves were brought to America by Arab traders, just mention to me a name of 1 single Arab ship that crossed the Atlantic to sell Salves, just one, and carrying which flag?
The first Arabic ship that crossed the Atlantic ocean was in 2nd half of 20th century …
Good that you agreed with me that we didn’t trade with slaves, this a good start..
But No, we weren’t in caves, check: “Islamic Golden Age” on wikipedia and you will know what were the muslims doing?
Also, you can see “The hidden Islamic sciences” on youtube, film by German RTL TV.